Pope Leo's first encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, turns in its third chapter, "Technology and Dominance", to the hardest question AI forces on us: are we standing on a Tower of Babel that's destined to fall, or can the thing be rebuilt brick by brick?

In the final panel of our 3-part series, Edmund Mitchell sits down with three expert guests who live this tension from worlds that rarely meet: a frontier-lab AI safety leader, a Catholic builder who bootstrapped an AI company, and a Harvard formation scholar.

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Andrew DeBerry
President of Arimathea Investing; founding member of the Catholic Digital Commons Foundation and SENT Ventures; Lieutenant Colonel in the Air Force Reserves for the Pentagon's AI policy office; has led responsible-AI teams at Microsoft, Amazon, Google X, and Meta

John Johnson
Founder and CEO of Patmos Hosting, a bootstrapped, profitable AI data-center company that owns its infrastructure "down to the dirt"; founder of the Albertus Magnus Institute; wrote his thesis on the beatific epistemology of St. Thomas Aquinas

Letty Garcia
Director of the Leadership Initiative at Harvard Business School; MTS from Harvard Divinity School; Diploma in Ignatian Spirituality from the Gregorian University in Rome; doctoral studies in adult learning and leadership at Columbia's Teachers College

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